Listen: Apple Podcasts | RadioPublic | Google Podcasts | YouTube I met Rachal Duggan at the Tone Madison anniversary party. She had a table set up to do butt portraits. People would turn around and she would draw a picture of their butt. Afterward, I sent her a message and asked if she would want to meet and talk. We decided to get together at Madison Sourdough in her neighborhood. During the interview, two surprising things happen. We ran into Hailee from episode 4 and I learn Rachal is one degree of separation from the very thing that inspired everything I'm doing here. Website - rachalduggan.com Follow Rachal on Instagram - @radillustrates Cartooning: Philosophy and Practice by Ivan Brunetti on Amazon - https://amzn.to/2LqkSvZ BTW , here is the Instagram story she posted of our portrait along with the bumper sticker we bought from her.